Luke 8:23 part 1

Word Study, descended (Luke 8:23)

The lessons of Y’shua have been given to those who hear. In a synagogue in Capernaum at the shore of the sea, a man is set free of demonic power when Y’shua rebuked the vile spirit with the words, “Be quiet and come out of him!” to the amazement of the congregation.

Wherever the faithful met in the north country of the Galilee, Y’shua went to them to teach the way of Elohim. For too long the chosen people of Israel had measured righteousness on a sliding scale of rank among one another instead of by the Word of the Living God. Y’shua came and taught truth. Those comfortable with the status of religion fought him. Many of the religious were hard, representing the wide way of destruction, a hard path. When the seed of the Word of Truth fell upon them it could not penetrate and was quickly snatched away. (see the parable of the seed in Luke 8:4-15) But many others received the truth of Y’shua with joy. Tests of *faith would soon follow.

A day came when unnamed disciples, followers of Y’shua as the way of righteousness, were joined by their Master in a boat with the instruction to, “…go across to the other side of the Lake.” No reason is given that I can see, they were to simply do what he said.

 Now on one of those days Jesus and His disciples got into a boat, and He said to them, “Let us go over to the other side of the lake.” So they launched out.  But as they were sailing along He fell asleep; and a fierce gale of wind descended on the lake, and they began to be swamped and to be in danger.  They came to Jesus and woke Him up, saying, “Master, Master, we are perishing!” And He got up and rebuked the wind and the surging waves, and they stopped, and it became calm.  And He said to them, “Where is your faith?” They were fearful and amazed, saying to one another, “Who then is this, that He commands even the winds and the water, and they obey Him?”        Luke 8:22-25 NASU

Generally what is written about the storm is that it was something very natural and normal. A type of storm that often strikes the Sea of Galilee. I do not dispute that this is true. Yet because of recent word studies of the translation of “wind” and the relationship of the word to the spirit realm, I wanted to take a closer look. As a point of interest, this is the only place I know of where Y’shua is said to “sleep”. The word studies I am interested in take place while he sleeps.

The first word I want to look at is “descended”

2597. katabaín compound word  from katá (#2596, down), and baín (#576, to go or come). To come or go down, descend from a higher to a lower place.

(from The Complete Word Study Bible and The Complete Word Study Dictionary: New Testament Copyright © 1991, 1992, 1994, 2002 AMG International, Inc.)

Nothing in this definition that seems unusual.  But the word study isn’t finished until the cross referencing is done. For the sake of brevity I am using the cross references given for the use of this word with “things” rather than “persons” that were suggested by The Complete Word Study Dictionary. The New American Standard Updated Edition is what I am using for this study. The word that has been translated from the original language to English is in bold.

But an angel of the Lord spoke to Philip saying, “Get up and go south to the road that descends from Jerusalem to Gaza.” (This is a desert road.) Acts 8:26       This first example is easy to understand in a normal, natural understanding. Jerusalem is apparently higher in elevation. The road goes down to Gaza.

and he (Peter) saw the sky opened up, and an object like a great sheet coming down, lowered by four corners to the ground, Acts 10:11     This passage has the sky opening and an object coming down to the ground. Not an average natural event. The circumstances of this use of katabain is explained in the next passage.

 “I (Peter) was in the city of Joppa praying; and in a trance I saw a vision, an object coming down like a great sheet lowered by four corners from the sky; and it came right down to me, Acts 11:5

Every good thing given and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shifting shadow. James 1:17      A gift from Elohim is not generally seen as a sheet or an object that comes from an opening in the sky before descending to the ground. These gifts are usually described as an ability beyond what we are able to do without the gift. prophecies is one of the famous gifts. Those who speak in tongues are quick to give the glory to God. Even so, I want to keep this passage of James in mind as I continue.

He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will not go out from it anymore; and I will write on him the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God, and My new name. Revelation 3:12     A whole city is coming down from heaven! A gift from Elohim. My question is, is the city spiritual or physical? Or is it something that I cannot even fathom?

“And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and yet it did not fall, for it had been founded on the rock. Matthew 7:25 (see also Matthew 7:27)     This is a simple natural idea.

When His disciples James and John saw this, they said, “Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them?” Luke 9:54     Just what did James and John mean when they said this? There are two other examples. One from the New Covenant and one from the writings of the Hebrews.

 

Elijah replied to the captain of fifty, “If I am a man of God, let fire come down from heaven and consume you and your fifty.” Then fire came down from heaven and consumed him and his fifty. 2 Kings 1:10

He (the 2nd beast with the horns of a lamb and voice of a dragon) performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the presence of men. Rev 13:13      This and the 2nd Kings passage speak of something coming down from heaven.

 

and the Holy Spirit descended upon Him in bodily form like a dove, and a voice came out of heaven, ” You are My beloved Son, in You I am well-pleased.” Luke 3:22     This is perhaps the most important use of the word katabaín. Not just a spirit but The Spirit came from the heavenly, spirit realm, to the Messiah

This word, katabaín translated came down or descended, can have a simple, physical meaning of going down in elevation. But it can also mean a descent from the spirit realm to the physical realm. The challange will be to understand just where the “wind” of Luke 8:23 descended from.

Rudy at Ocean City, Washington State

*My understanding of faith is living your life doing the word of God, a trust that it is the only way to be righteous before Elohim.

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  1. Heh am I literally the only comment to your amazing writing.

    • Ha! Thanks Lesly. I use this mostly for my links on my regular blog. I am doing a personal study on Luke and the word studies here are to help keep the study form getting way to long.

      You are VERY kind in your comments.

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